06-09-2008, 04:00 PM
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oral sex
my wife does not like oral sex
I have tried talking about it ,,,then she gets mad and runs away will not talk about it.... I have tried oral sex with her and she enjoys it ,,she starts moaning then all off a sudden she says stop and then gets mad ....if you go eny further we will stop making love.. I stop and thats it.... I told her i would like to be more intimate with her but she likes ****ing and enjoys it. We have sex two times a week sometimes 3. I place her hand on my dick and she pulls away... I have been married 19 years and was going out two before married.. Another thing the last 6 years she leaves her top and bra on durring sex,,, She will not let me see her naked... I have never told her to loose wait or abuse her in any way... I know i am rambling on but it is hard I would like to get a game plan... it is really frustrating Jim 
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06-10-2008, 10:57 AM
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if you go any further we will stop making love..
Bah, this is how women use sex to control the relationship and get what they want. What you need to do is make her realize that she is not doing you a favor, or in some way rewarding you. You need to communicate that she is only denying herself a good time. You don't 'need' sex from her, you can take it or leave it. This will cause her to start doubting herself (which is what you want). As you know, women's biggest weak points are their constant need of attention and their insecurities. You need to work these angles to your benefit. Most guys can't see past their own d*ck to realize how valuable this bit of information is. A wise man once said 'when someone's vanity is in question, you can get them to do whatever you want'. Words to live by...
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I'm not interested in preserving the status quo; I want to overthrow it. - Niccolo Machiavelli
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06-11-2008, 12:35 PM
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How do i make her realize that she is not doing me a favour.. How do i commnunicate that she she is only denying herself a good time and last I do not need sex from her... I know i am the picture perfect "nice Guy" and want to change right now.. thanks for your help I made up my mind last night to try and do above and be patient... 
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06-12-2008, 08:11 AM
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Well jimrd, there is countless books out there that will help you in your 'transformation'. I can give you 'tips', but it sounds like you need to build a solid foundation, this is where Carlos and other guru's can provide material for you to look over.
I have studied and read countless books over the years pertaining to Human Nature and the Seduction community, and 2 stand out above all others... The Pimp Game: Instructional Guide by Mickey Royal. You will feel like a different person once you have read this book, your view on women AND life will shift for the better. It's a great place to start. Robert Greene's book on Seduction (and 48 laws of power) are a MUST read. R.G. goes into 'detail' over the different types of seducers and their tactics. Quick Tip: Don't be available for sex ALL the time. Guys 'always' say yes when it comes to sex. Turn her down once in a while, tell her you're tired or something...let 'her' do some of the chasing.
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I'm not interested in preserving the status quo; I want to overthrow it. - Niccolo Machiavelli
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10-14-2008, 02:03 PM
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hi
Still no progress with my wife recieving giving oral sex I tried asking her nicely again and did not give me a responce I have all most finished 48 laws of power I will pick up the next book The Pimp Game" from amazon I have did some research and it said you should talk about sex wth your partner awy from the bedroom.... I tried but no results
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